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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jul 10, 2011 11:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

"Many folks West of the Mississippi don't realize just how short of a drive it is from Philly to Boston on I-95 and the massive concentration of people in such a relatively small geographical area."

Can't believe how provincial that statement is... and I doubt the folks out "West" are that myopic. Although that distance may be short, at least in terms of crossing Iowa, that drive is difficult and arduous at best, through the most densely populated area in the U.S.

edit: Driving time would be closer to 6-7 hours if you were blessed with good traffic, and only one potty break.

This post was modified by unclejohn52 on 2011-07-10 18:56:18

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 10, 2011 5:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

>Driving time would be closer to 6-7 hours if you were blessed with good traffic, and only one potty break

That is right. I regularly drive from Philly to New London, CT, and I have occasionally done it in 4 hours, if I don't stop at all and if there are absolutely no accidents or traffic jams, and that basically doesn't ever happen - there is ALWAYS some traffic disaster. Boston is 2 more hours. There is no way to do Philly to Boston in 5 hours unless you are driving 85 miles an hour. Even then, you're likely to get hung up somewhere. This is a route with New York City in the middle of it and you can either go straight through it (which is what I usually do) or if you can't deal with the Cross-Bronx Expressway you can add about an hour to the route by going around the city.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 10, 2011 5:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

I always get lost in the ever changing and every under construction Cross-Bronx Expressway. Especially going North. I mean sometimes I've missed the Tappen Zee Bridge which I think is against the laws of psychics. It's my own personal Bermuda Triangle. Everywhere else is no problem (except D.C.).

Maybe the headless horseman is involved.It's right in his neighborhood.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 10, 2011 6:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

>Everywhere else is no problem (except D.C.).

Yeah, I think you who once said something about taking the Beltway to Merriweather Post -- which is pretty far outside the Beltway :-) But in fact, everything within a very large radius of DC feels like the dreaded Beltway ... first time I drove it on my own, I thought I was on the Beltway up in Rockville. When I finally found the actual Beltway, I circled the whole city in utter confusion. And the drivers? Geez, it seems like a session of Congress. Never compromise! Never let anyone in! If they put on their blinkers cuz they need to cross four lanes of traffic, speed up, cuz if you hit them, you WON! Well, at least no one can say it doesn't have character ...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 10, 2011 7:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

That is pretty funny.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 10, 2011 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

Oh, and quite true. You know you're approaching DC from maybe 2 hours away cuz all of a sudden drivers start cutting people off and engaging in vehicular backstabbing.

This is a different energy from NYC, which is two philosophies in conflict -- Third World Chaos takes on Person Shouting "Fuggedaboutit!" -- but that basically works, and you know where you stand with New York drivers. DC drivers are Alpha Males on Overdrive.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 10, 2011 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

I can find no other words @11pm other then fear and loathing to describe the beltway. It's a monster, consuming cars and robbing drivers. (MD staties suck). I begin sensing the monster when I hit Delaware going southbound.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jul 10, 2011 8:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: ' In and around the Chicago Land in the 70's '

The answer: never, EVER take the Cross-Bronx. It is the only allowed truck route over the river. (GW Bridge) Take ANY other route even if it adds 20 miles to your travel. Especially true at rush hour, which is most of the weekday.